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Any Idea why Straight Men find Nudity Repulsive?
Return to DiscussionsTo me it is extremely odd. Unless the person is way out of shape or something that looks very bad, I don't understand why so many men are repulsed by male nudity. On the other hand, some people I guess could simply be repulsed by the human body. I don't know. Also are there any straight men who appreciate the beauty of male nudity? There is a nice picture for this group. It is quite attractive. I don't find it sexually attractive. I just like it. I live in a society where men claim they can't tell (as if they are blind) if a person of the same gender is attractive or not. I mean men here. Females comment on each other's beauty all the time. But going beyond that, being nudists (If you've ever spent a lot of time nude and you are straight) do you "notice," "appreciate," find "attractive," or however you would describe it--the male form? Someone had to pick the picture for this discussion group. I don't assume it had to be a gay person. If straight, that picture appealed to that person for some particular reason.Since I'm not completely straight, I find this really hard to understand the various responses people give on the topic. My feelings are obviously different.Does anyone have anything to share about this? It would be helpful to discuss it. I understand that this group being a bunch of nudists are sometimes in the same boat in that they accept nudity and wonder why people don't feel more comfortable. Either way, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
To me it is extremely odd. Unless the person is way out of shape or something that looks very bad, I don't understand why so many men are repulsed by male nudity. On the other hand, some people I guess could simply be repulsed by the human body. I don't know. Also are there any straight men who appreciate the beauty of male nudity? There is a nice picture for this group. It is quite attractive. I don't find it sexually attractive. I just like it. I live in a society where men claim they can't tell (as if they are blind) if a person of the same gender is attractive or not. I mean men here. Females comment on each other's beauty all the time. But going beyond that, being nudists (If you've ever spent a lot of time nude and you are straight) do you "notice," "appreciate," find "attractive," or however you would describe it--the male form? Someone had to pick the picture for this discussion group. I don't assume it had to be a gay person. If straight, that picture appealed to that person for some particular reason.Since I'm not completely straight, I find this really hard to understand the various responses people give on the topic. My feelings are obviously different.Does anyone have anything to share about this? It would be helpful to discuss it. I understand that this group being a bunch of nudists are sometimes in the same boat in that they accept nudity and wonder why people don't feel more comfortable. Either way, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I believe that it's a societal conditioning against anything that could be perceived as gay feelings or being gay-positive and it's been allowed to become feared and this has been self-perpetuating.
For too long being queer / homosexual was was seen as unacceptable and deviant, illegal and driven out of sight of mainstream society and was absolutely discouraged as less than masculine (after all if we didn't want to have sex with a woman we must want to take her place - TOTALLY untrue).
There is a gradual sea-change occurring which should remove the Victorian era fascination with what happens in the bedrooms but here in Australia major religions like Catholicism are allowed to indoctrinate every schoolchild against equality. I regret to say but until society moves at least two further generations away from the 19th Century then this will still be engrained.
I also think that this repulsion is over-stated in public situations than in private; a straight guy on a nudist beach would not allow himself to be seen looking at any male with any interest but it's less likely to be an issue if he was showering at the gym with relatively little chance of being observed.
If only every household could be nudist; in textile households children learn to put on many layers of unnecessary morals and inhibitions with their clothes. Without that the enforced covering up children raised in a nudist household can be taught the tools to make sensible decisions about their adult behaviour and subsequent lifestyle.
And the male body can be admired for it's aesthetic values rather than sniggered at by men who fear their own thoughts.
To me it is extremely odd. Unless the person is way out of shape or something that looks very bad, I don't understand why so many men are repulsed by male nudity. On the other hand, some people I guess could simply be repulsed by the human body. I don't know. Also are there any straight men who appreciate the beauty of male nudity? There is a nice picture for this group. It is quite attractive. I don't find it sexually attractive. I just like it. I live in a society where men claim they can't tell (as if they are blind) if a person of the same gender is attractive or not. I mean men here. Females comment on each other's beauty all the time. But going beyond that, being nudists (If you've ever spent a lot of time nude and you are straight) do you "notice," "appreciate," find "attractive," or however you would describe it--the male form? Someone had to pick the picture for this discussion group. I don't assume it had to be a gay person. If straight, that picture appealed to that person for some particular reason.Since I'm not completely straight, I find this really hard to understand the various responses people give on the topic. My feelings are obviously different.Does anyone have anything to share about this? It would be helpful to discuss it. I understand that this group being a bunch of nudists are sometimes in the same boat in that they accept nudity and wonder why people don't feel more comfortable. Either way, I'd love to hear your thoughts.
I think here in England we are fearful of being labelled gay are so are conditioned not to comment about a guys good looks or attractiveness. Although being gay is now completely acceptable, nevertheless there are some people who still think that being gay is less than normal.
As for the picture on this group, I think it's a very good one. I think both guys are semi-erect which makes it even nicer!
Straight men don't find nudity repulsive, but some do have intense fears that acknowledging the beauty of another man is going to label them. Hence you hear stupid things like, "I'm not interested personally, but he is a very attractive man." or "If I were inclined that way, I would be attracted to him" What kind of nonsense is this double speak. Men are attractive like women are attractive, and vice-versa. I believe that we all would be better served to just accept that beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
Although being gay is now completely acceptable, nevertheless there are some people who still think that being gay is less than normal.As for the picture on this group, I think it's a very good one. I think both guys are semi-erect which makes it even nicer!
People view homosexuality as normal in England? I know that has happened in quite a few European countries. I didn't know England was one of them.
a straight guy on a nudist beach would not allow himself to be seen looking at any male with any interest but it's less likely to be an issue if he was showering at the gym with relatively little chance of being observed.
Are you saying that Nudists act like this too? I would think nudists would be more open and accepting.
Straight men don't find nudity repulsive, but some do have intense fears that acknowledging the beauty of another man is going to label them. Hence you hear stupid things like, "I'm not interested personally, but he is a very attractive man." or "If I were inclined that way, I would be attracted to him" What kind of nonsense is this double speak. Men are attractive like women are attractive, and vice-versa. I believe that we all would be better served to just accept that beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
Great point!
Straight men don't find nudity repulsive, but some do have intense fears that acknowledging the beauty of another man is going to label them. Hence you hear stupid things like, "I'm not interested personally, but he is a very attractive man." or "If I were inclined that way, I would be attracted to him" What kind of nonsense is this double speak. Men are attractive like women are attractive, and vice-versa. I believe that we all would be better served to just accept that beauty is always in the eye of the beholder.
Beauty in the eyes of the beholder... DEFINITELY! , but despite the beauty in all of us, many men are brought up and thought that to admire another man's beauty is immoral, just not right. A sad state of affairs indeed. Michael Angelo, d Vinci and many others glorified the beauty of the male body in their paintings. For centuries these masterpieces containing male bodies, male anatomies have been glorified by many, men and women alike. Nevertheless, to admire another fellow man in this day in age have been considered "absurd" or abnormal, when the admiration comes from another man... Don't get it. Hopefully the time would come in the future when we can apply the true admiration of the male body, as it have been done centuries ago!Really nice points. I really like your logic! Thanks for sharing!
My experience and opinion is that those straight guys who find the male nude repulsive or, are embarrassed to see that male genitalia are conditioned to think that to admire, is to be 'gay". Even to admire the artistic nude of a Greek statue is cause for alarm.In Italy where nude statuary abounds, the Catholic Church (which acquired so much of it) has double standards. Is it because the status are the ideal male and real nude guys come in all shapes, sizes and ages?The answer is multifaceted. Fear, embarrassment, envy and disgust are all reasons.
I think it stems from insecurity and internalized homophobia. I think nude men look great, just being MALE. I am not sexually attracted to every man I see, but I can observe and appreciate the male physique, I can tell a guy "great abs!" or "Great ass!" and be totally non-sexual about it. I am just telling that they look good, and it is appreciated.
I guess it have to be something woth the region, because here where I live (Bulgaria and Turkey) it is okay to do at least half of these things. Well if you make a comment like " you have very beutiful penis" people will look at you a bit odd, but making a compliment about abs for example is perfectly fine. Or to tell a friend that he looks better with beard for example is also perfectly fine. In fact you can see many guys holding their friends over on their shoulder. Holding hands on the other hand is not regarded so normal. But in the end here guys camaraderie is a norm.