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"..that's not naturism..."
Return to DiscussionsI recently went to a private view one afternoon at a gallery, adjoining house and sculpture garden that was exclusively for nudists, apart from the staff who all remained clothed. We parked our cars and undressed immediately as we'd been told we could be naked as soon as we got there. We then went to the cafe for coffee and initial viewing in the gallery while we waited for the other nudists to arrive prior to a guided tour of the house. The venue is situated out of town on the edge of a small village so it was very suitable for nudists to roam freely around the grounds. The tour lasted for about an hour and to me it was entirely suited to be enjoyed as nudists.
We are lucky in that locally there are people from a nearby nudist group who actively approach venues for use by nudists. Recently there have been visits to gardens, other art galleries, theatres and an evening at a bowling alley where we have had great fun as nudists. All of the venues have seen the staff remain clothed while we have been nude immediately on arrival and remained so until just before departure. Each time we have felt very welcome in our preferred state of nudity and the events have been perfect examples of clothing-optional coexistence.
The point of this post is to ask what others think about this type of nude recreation. Earlier this summer as we were about to leave a nudist venue we'd stayed at for a long weekend I had a conversation with a couple who were members there about the options we have nearer home for nude socialising. Over that weekend the club had had various musical acts providing entertainment. I mentioned the type of events listed above to the couple, her response was "..that's not naturism..." I asked her what the difference was to us going round a gallery, or watching a theatre performance while we were nude and enjoying music as we had at their club while we were naked. She said that she didn't attend that sort of event at her club, as she didn't see it as naturism.
We have friends who we see at local nude beaches but they do not live naked at home like we do. We enjoy hiking nude; on our own, with a few friends or as part of larger organised nudist groups. Some friends don't get why we like to do it nude. We enjoy doing just about anything nude, whenever and wherever we can, especially with other nudists. We're fine if we can be nude while others are clothed, we've done that so many times we don't really think about how some might find that 'unusual', to us it is very normal. We're nude because we're nudists!
It would be interesting to read others takes on whether it is nudism/naturism if we enjoy 'alternative' experiences while naked to the more typical time at a nudist club or beach. What other activities to you enjoy as nudists? What would you like to do nude that you haven't done naked yet?
At a nudist resort I was recently described as a Hard-line nudist by another naked man. I replied with surprise and just said I simply enjoy life, naked. I do much of what you others do. And I'm used to the staff being clothed while all of us are naked. If that's not naturism will someone please tell me what is naturism.
At a nudist resort I was recently described as a Hard-line nudist by another naked man. I replied with surprise and just said I simply enjoy life, naked. I do much of what you others do. And I'm used to the staff being clothed while all of us are naked. If that's not naturism will someone please tell me what is naturism.
Nudism, Naturism or Naturalist define it anyway you want. The definition is personal to each person. I say that I am a nudist because I like doing things while nude.
I guess due to our lack of experience and knowledge, we just consider ourselves to be nudist and don't get too focused on what's the difference between nudism/naturalist, etc. Prior to our first time being nude in a social setting, the only thing we enjoyed doing nude was bathing, sex, lounging inside our house, and relaxing in our back yard without clothes. Now that we've met some really nice people and had great times at various locations. we wish we could live someplace where society and the weather afforded us the opportunity. With the upbringing I experienced, when I first heard about a nudist church, I condemned all the participants in my mind and figured they were devil worshippers. But after going to the resort and visiting the church where the Word of God was preached correctly, I realized how wrong I had been in my judgement and enjoyed the service. Now I figure if I could enjoy church in the nude, we could definitely enjoy about just about everything else nude just as long as it is safe!
I don't get too focused on what's the difference between nudism/naturalist, etc. !
A Typo?
Nudist and Naturist are just two names for someone who likes to go naked. But a naturalist is very different - they are someone who studies nature. This distinction was very much pointed out to me when the Yorkshire Naturalists booked our village hall. To my disappointment they were studying the wild life in a nearby nature reserve.
No doubt there are some nudists who are also naturalists, who like to get naked in nature. Maybe they describe activities like visiting galleries, watching plays and dining naked as not being naturism. May I just suggest they loosen their stays and enjoy these and many other activities without clothes.
I believe that UK law describes a naturist as someone who goes about their lawful activity (whatever that might be) without clothes. And it protects their right to do so - as a minority group (hopefully not an endangered species).
It would be interesting to read others takes on whether it is nudism/naturism if we enjoy 'alternative' experiences while naked to the more typical time at a nudist club or beach. What other activities to you enjoy as nudists? What would you like to do nude that you haven't done naked yet?In answer to your question, in early November 2019 I went to a.play in Los Angeles titled Disrobed where both the cast and the audience were nude. It was a delightful experience. The theatre was very small and intimate with seating for 24 people. The play was so much fun. With everyone nude it became a mutual immersive experience with the cast and the audience together in such a small space! The wine and cheese after party had audience and cast all still nude visiting with other. It all was totally normal and natural. Whether you classify this experience as naturism or not does not really matter to me! It was just enjoyable and fun!
That sounds like fun, something we'd like to do nude too. We've seen where plays have been put on for a nudist audience but have yet to make it to any ourselves. We do know nudists that did get to some of them and their experiences echo yours, it being totally natural and normal that everyone was nude. We've been to nudist clubs which hold weekend music events and it has always felt very normal for the audience to all be nude, but not all performers have been nude. We've visited a few art galleries which held sessions for nudists, the staff have usually been clothed though. We've also been for nudist meals in restaurants and pubs, again it was only the customers who were nude. Each occasion was very enjoyable though and another nudist experience. But an event like 'Disrobed' where the performers were nude too and while socialising afterwards tops the ones we've been to. To us it doesn't matter how these events are classified either, its a pleasure to be able to participate naked with like-minded people.
To me a naturist is someone who believes in being naked whenever they/we can - just doing the day to day things without clothes when possible. That includes eating out, drinking, going to the theatre, visiting an art exhibition, driving, walking, shopping, gardening, housework... I've done all those things (naked). Why not?
It's an interesting conversation. Maybe the woman who made the original comment believes naturism to be outdoors, being "one with nature" and if that is her definition, so be it, clearly it's not the same as others here. I wonder did the original poster of this topic ask that question.
It's like the regular discussion between the definitions of naturism & nudism, it doesn't bother me but some have strong views. Walking around publicly naked where clothed people are could be considered freedom or it could be thought of as exhibitionism, people will have different views.
As people who like to live nude (lucky for those in climates that facilitate this) or be nude as often as possible (maybe the majority here) I think we should be educating others to consider an alternative view so that our preferences are accepted without a bad reaction, accusation or allegation.
It may not necessarily be naturism, but still fall into the category of nudism. There can still be a bit of a blurred line between the two. Some seem to think naturism and nudism are one and the same, just two different words for the same thing. This doesn't necessarily have to be the case. BOTH want to experience life naked, like the way they(we) were born. Naturists may want to try to be one with nature, out in the woods, fields, deserts or whatever, where as nudists may seek out places with more regular amenities that the modern world has to offer. To me, a naturist would have their body in a more complete natural state, and a nudist may choose to make some changes. Point being, a nudist may shave certain areas or the whole body, have tattoos, body piercings, etc., and a naturist does none of those things. Does someone who calls themselves a naturist but have shaved areas or whole body shaved, tattoos, piercings or whatever actually a naturist, or are they really in fact a nudist who likes to be in natural settings? Also, if a "naturist" prefers to be in a more man made setting, like a resort or someone's backyard or other something similar, rather than out in the woods away from modern conveniences, are they truly a "naturist"? Like I said, it can be a bit of a blurred line between the two terms and not everyone has it quite figured out in their mind the potential differences between the two. So while viewing an art exhibit while nude may not qualify as naturism, it could well still be considered a form of nudism, that naturists and nudists can both enjoy together in a nudist environment, even though it's not totally natural. If there's that much of a divide between nudists and naturists, how come there is not a website called True Naturists? BTW, I consider myself more in the nudist category, but labels like that can add to the confusion more than help.
. ....I wonder did the original poster of this topic ask that question.......
No I didn't ask the lady who declared ".....that's not naturism....." what her definition of naturism is. As I said I'd asked her what the difference to us being nude at an art gallery or in a theatre to attending the music events at the nudist club we were at and she dismissed them all as not being of interest to her, or naturist. I sensed that she might get a bit agitated if I pursued the topic any further, it seemed to be an emotional subject for her, I wasn't looking to upset anyone, we'd had a great weekend and wanted that to be our main memory of the time there.