Making Gay/Bi Male Nudist Friends Without Sex
Interestingly it seems hard to find men who enjoy nudism who don't mind making friends who are NOT interested in anything other than having a naked friend to hang out with. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one not looking to hook up just because I enjoy running around nude. Has anyone else had this experience? I also have to say that I get a little creeped out when someone makes an unwelcomed comment about how I look naked or about my cock & balls or stuff like that. While it is nice to be complimented I get the impression that those comments highlight an underlying desire by the other person. Seriously, I would just like to make some friends who want nothing other than to have someone who can watch a game, go on a hike, swim, hang out, do whatever without the burden of clothes and without thinking that there is some other motive.
So, to the group: what's your experience like?
I've had similar questions for a long time. I have spent a lot of time reconciling what sometimes seem to be conflicting interests for me - nudity and sex. I could not, would not ever deny that there's a sensuality to nudism - that's sensuality, not sexuality. I love the feeling of the sun on my body, a breeze across my skin, and a certain eroticism to be nude with other humans. I think to deny it's there would be just that, denial. That's eroticism, not sex!
I love being nude with others (men, women, kids) in strictly nudist, non-sexual situations. Ones where there's no chance of any sexual innuendo, commentary or action. I can focus on the pure joys of naturism with no pressure or awkwardness. Sadly it seems there are some people who cannot separate pure nudism from sexual nudity. I wish that more people could make this distinction, I think it's brings one to a new "High" enjoying naturism.
I get together regularly with a group of friends whose stated mission is non-sexual social nudity. But with enough wine, the line often gets crossed, and it's very awkward. I usually leave at this point because I do not care to mix my friendship with a sexual relationship. I belonged to a men's social nudism group here in Boston which turned out to be a 'front' for sex parties. I left it only after becoming a board member and trying internally to change its policies back to it's stated mission.
On the other hand, in the spirit of full disclosure, I'm a sexual being and I sometimes enjoy situations where sex is acceptable and possible. This too can be very liberating and bring friendships to a new level. The key is that I KNOW this is a likely possibility in these situations. It can be incredibly freeing in the right time and place. I know how to make this distinction.
I believe the key is to ensure that everyone knows what the situation is, and that people stick to the stated intention of the group or get together. It's not fair to put guests or friends into a situation where their only option is to leave. It can be very embarrassing and friends would not, should not put others in this position.
I also know it's not a 'gay or straight' issue. Mixed nudist resorts and groups have the exact same issues. I just returned from Cap D'agde and the sex is always simmering just below the surface. (Actually, it's often above the surface). The nudist resorts in Florida can be very sexual, and downright unfriendly because of it.
Great question to discuss!
Interestingly it seems hard to find men who enjoy nudism who don't mind making friends who are NOT interested in anything other than having a naked friend to hang out with. Sometimes I feel like I am the only one not looking to hook up just because I enjoy running around nude. Has anyone else had this experience? I also have to say that I get a little creeped out when someone makes an unwelcomed comment about how I look naked or about my cock & balls or stuff like that. While it is nice to be complimented I get the impression that those comments highlight an underlying desire by the other person. Seriously, I would just like to make some friends who want nothing other than to have someone who can watch a game, go on a hike, swim, hang out, do whatever without the burden of clothes and without thinking that there is some other motive.So, to the group: what's your experience like?Well this is a very good question indeed. I for one enjoy meeting my old and new nudist friends. sexual and non sexual meetings both with and with out my wife and female bestie for just watching movies nude, TV shows, football and even PlayStation 3bowling games and such. when I setup the meeting at my place I determine the overall objective of the gathering first and for most so there is no mix ups before hand. most of the time its just me and neither my best Mary or my wife and another nudist just all hanging out nude with only discussion and TV/movies/sports in mind and its never been a problem. I've been to a couple of friends where it was suppose to be a nudist gathering and after some time, erections(male or female) would startup and things would and digress into a touchy feely exploration. which I was ok with but hate when things get off course like that. makes meeting new nudist friends hard when you advertise one thing and it turns into something else. I've had bad and good experiences and have learned to make better gatherings for the new nudists wanting to meet other true nudists and enjoy the true meaning of the lifestyle.
MGN hit it on the head, covered pretty much everything that needed to be covered. Maybe that's why this thread didn't take off like it should. That, and this group doesn't have a lot of activity anyhow. Maybe it's because it's October, not as many activities that can be done naked now.
I appreciate your bringing up the word sensual. That word is very helpful in this context. I grow weary of hearing people preach about being naked isn't about sex. Well, yes and no, when I'm naked in the locker room or at a public naked beach it isn't, but getting naked is one of the steps to sex and it an't like a switch you can flip on or off. Well maybe some people can, but I'll be honest and say I cannot. Of course I'm not going to act on the thoughts running through my head when I'm naked in the company of other naked people, some of whom I find attractive and some uh not so much, but it would be unrealistic for me to say, "No, they're not there" if some sexy body is on full naked display in front of me. The word sensual you use seems to be a good middle ground between the prudish (and unrealistic) "naked doesn't mean sex" which practically comes across as "naked means no sex" and the other extreme of thinking as soon as you get naked you're going to get bombarded with sexual solicitations.
You're right on with making sure the purpose of every gathering is clear. If the set is intended to be purely social (i.e., social that doesn't lead to sex) it really gets awkward when someone hits on you that you're not remotely attracted to. You're supposed to be able to talk to any and everybody, but if some sex-crazed person shows up to one of these meetings it puts a damp on the spirits of the place and limits the socializing if you fear unwanted advances,
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