Size Matters
I was just reading the comments some folks wrote on a TN guy's profile. The guy with the photos happens to have a rather large endowment. More than one person wrote something along the lines of "you should be proud". To me, this kind of comment has no place on a nudist site. The nudist philosophy is that we should all be comfortable with our bodies and what we were doled out. Singling out certain guys for having a big one seems diminishing to those who don't. Also, why should someone be proud because they were born with a big penis? It's not an achievement, it's luck of the draw. Does anyone else have thoughts on this?
It's a fetish - like small feet or big breasts. Not universally shared, not equally common in all cultures / subcultures and in all eras. In our photo / image heavy culture, it's so pervasive as to seem "natural" - kinda like the entirely artificially muscled bodies that even the heavy laborers and Olympic athletes of yore did not have. I agree the comments are out of place on a nudist site, but more: the comments are pretty stupid, in any context - because they assume a universally shared standard for what kind of body one should be proud of.
On a number of occasions I've been startled by people's reactions to old photos of shirtless guys in the early gay pride parades and events - vigorous, out, proud, courageous men, whose bodies then were seen as, well, embodying those virtues, and which are now laughed at. Too skinny, too pale, whatever. What a waste of potential happiness.
I couldn't agree more with what the OP said. I think this is a problem in the population at large but especially in the gay culture. We have become obsessed with size, and quite frankly it ticks me off too. Supposedly the point of naturism is to take in the freedom and liberation of being nude and being accepting of everyone that at least respects their own body. Sadly many times it falls short of that though. The huge guys will have a parade behind them or people commenting on their "great" endowment. The smaller than average guys get commented on too, thankfully not to their faces. It really diminishes from the whole thing. I'm not surprised but still disappointed that it happens here as much as it does. I often wonder if calling it out would diminish or amplify the problem.
Well from my point of view I have alwayspreferred guy to have average normal sized equipment.. That is probably just me but those with the super sizes... I just don't find that attracts me to them.. A guy to me is a complete collection or attributes and parts not just a dick..
I was just reading the comments some folks wrote on a TN guy's profile. The guy with the photos happens to have a rather large endowment. More than one person wrote something along the lines of "you should be proud". To me, this kind of comment has no place on a nudist site. The nudist philosophy is that we should all be comfortable with our bodies and what we were doled out. Singling out certain guys for having a big one seems diminishing to those who don't. Also, why should someone be proud because they were born with a big penis? It's not an achievement, it's luck of the draw. Does anyone else have thoughts on this?
As a short man I want to agree with you for I could never abide tall or big people who used it as a birthright to lord over others (often glorying in that which they did not create but were born with). However, as a nudist, though I connect with your premise, I do not agree with your position. Nudists should be some of the freest people around, a big part of that freedom is freedom to be candid, complimenting who and what we like. We all should (especially nudists) get over ourselves and not ever feel diminished just because another is complimented no matter what the compliment may be. Part of body acceptance is also accepting other points of view and perception and not feeling threatened all the time. I hang out with all body types, but that doesn't mean I check my personality at the door. If someone looks good, I tell them.Lastly the one thing NO nudist site should have is a bunch of declarations about what nudists should and shouldn't say, or for that matter what pictures should and shouldn't go up, something we freer minds put up with here. I believe too many prudish nudists are the reason we have trouble with attracting the next generation. They see our hypocracy. We cry FREEDOM but still insist on restricting it. If we are truly free enough to strip off our clothes, then let us truly be free to let other nudists be the type of nudist they are without fear of judgement or censorship.
I'm more of a live and let live guy. If you want to admire the large guys or the small ones, fine with me.
I can't really tell much from most pics anyway. If he's fully flaccid, it might still grow to be huge or might not. If he's semi in the pic, i can't tell if that's a big as it gets or if he just started to grow. So basically, I don't worry about it.
KC
Interesting topic about - size matters.
I am one of those that you are talking about. I have a large penis and gets many compliments about it. I think it's ok, but sometimes it's not about anything other than my big penis. It's like women with big breasts ...
When people write to me that I should be proud of my penis, Its difficult to relate to, since I was born with it. But I think it's ok to praise other people if you think something on their body or face is beautiful.
The idea that nudism suddenly makes you less human is absurd, and that seems to be what people are referring to when they use the excuse "but as nudists" to suggest that we are suddenly not supposed to find appeal in things that we normally do. Sexuality and sexual attraction is just as human as wanting general social interaction, and the idea that censorship is important in speech seems a bit bizarre. However, there are limits to any society whether named or unnamed. As much as there are people here that are probably thinking "fuck yeah, censorship and inhibiting yourself sucks" there are things that we all agree need to be held back... you know before the people going "but we don't use the bathroom in front of each other" start popping up with their argument that not all "normal" behavior is acceptable "group" behavior.
Ultimately to me, nudism is the great equalizer. It doesn't matter your status in life, how much money you make, who you know, what you do, everyone strips off and becomes essentially the same, and is at least on the same level. There are different ideas of what that should be, but as far as i'm concerned the whole concept of nudism is a very hippie sort of "live and let live" attitude. If someone isn't hurting you, then let it go. The question I ask of people opposed to this kind of talk is this: Is this question directed to you? If the answer is no, is it directed to someone you have a direct personal connection with e.g. a close friend or a relative? If the answer is no than is it in some way breaking an established law? If so far you're coming up with nothing but no... maybe you're the one with the problem. That being said, if the answer to any of those are yes, than speak up and make it clear that it's not appreciated, and if it continues find a way to separate yourself from the situation.
Set a different context for a moment. You - or some imaginary straight guy - are at your hiking club's annual picnic, and there's a row of women in t-shirts sitting on a bench. You - or some imaginary guy - walk up to one of them and say, "Nice big boobs you've got." That's not cool for several reasons that apply to the situation cited by the OP:
1.) It's not that kind of party. If it were a kegger, maaaybe. What kind of party is TN? "Please keep the comments polite and PG rated. This is not a strip club, sexual comments will get you banned" pretty much nails it. The host does get a vote in this, and this is neither repression nor censorship.
2.) Just because she's dressed so you can see the size of her boobs doesn't mean she's inviting your attention. Should she wear a burqua? Likewise, just because a guy is naked does not mean he's all about his dick. The fundamental convention of nudism is not "let your inhibitions go." It's "We can take off our clothes and still conduct a normal social life."
3.) The message was delivered publicly, among her friends. They - so they will instantly note - do not "measure up." If it's a truly friendly gathering, such compliments should be delivered privately. Lots of folks on this site have plainly expressed that they are grappling with body issues. Yea, sure, they should just get over it.... but you're not them, you're you - are you being helpful, or rude?
Seems here on this site more people that join are not really "nudists" as much as "exhibitionists." therefore you see more erections and more comments on penis size etc. as you said , size is the luck of te draw but it seems to be the focal point sometimes. Nothing wrong with admiration but we do need to keep comments to a minimum if we want to be respected in the nudist community. There are plenty of other websites that are meant for exhibitionism and erotic intentions.
I think this is well said and written! Stay naked!
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