a close but nonsexual relationship between two men.https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bromance
You'd think that the idea of "close" and "nonsexual" were clear, but they are not to me.
Kissing to me is close and romantic but sensuality (often without a clear sexual boundary) often feels more like a physical need. I've spoken with others who consider kissing sensual only and not emotional. Communication, consent and boundaries are crucial.
Once the genital contact begins it's no longer 'bromance'; it's gay. I think the bromance label is used a lot where the guys can't admit to their gay side but want the emotional and sexual contact from each other.
This is an interesting thread. I really think it is different for everyone.
When I was single, I was happy to play around but I never had any desire to use my mouth. I see kissing and giving a bj as more intimate.
My partner, conversely, reports that his (single) desire was always for kissing and intimacy.
But it does lead to the OP question about whether it would affect the friendship. I've been physical with a few friends (though not kissing) but as the friendships have matured, we haven't continued the physical side. Why? I'm not sure. Maybe it's just cultural.???
Absolutely agree. There's a moment when each person needs to figure out if those intimacies will harm the base friendship or add to it. There has to be an honest open conversation. It's a relationship like any other, so treat it with respect.
I've been intimately close with several friends for years. We talked openly as a group. We decided to try it and see. It deepened our friendships, and still we keep checking in about it. We've each gotten married (we're all gay men), and our husbands have joined us. We talk about that, too. It's been 30 years now.
What are your thoughts about two subjects?...Kissing between bromance partnersAnd, giving casual oral for your bromance partner as a way of sincere giving, fulfilling a need.What is your thinking on these issues? Is either appropriate in a bromance?
In my view, as I understand 'bromance' to be a relationship that is a very close friendship that each of the men understand each other in a deep way that is more than just been together where they 'feed' of each other and have deep desires for each other that can be said to be 'love'. Kissing per say is not sex but a form of appreciation of the other which is a form of 'love' though kissing does arouse and deepens sexual desires. Regarding casual oral, that is sexual in nature and does go further than bromance. It does change the relationship between the men, as any sexual act changes any relationship so is it appropriate in a bromance, no.
I think good friends should hang out naked with no judgement and if they are ok, share a jerk session with each other or watching porn is good. Guys need a release and will find it but its always good with a friend
Once the genital contact begins it's no longer 'bromance'; it's gay. I think the bromance label is used a lot where the guys can't admit to their gay side but want the emotional and sexual contact from each other.
I have to disagree with you on genital contact. I think theres more than 1 male out there that has experimented with genital contact, has decided hes straight or maybe enjoyed the sexual contact and realized hes bisexual.
As with other things in life, we all have our own view of things, which come from our experiences. Those views of things will change as life goes on. But it is key to understand what we are coming across, in this case 'Bromance'. I have my view of what this was, and speaking with other guys, as seen in previous post, varies with each post. As I wrote a few months back, and going back to definition of the word, each definition describes bromance I have come across is that this is a relationship between men that is clearly emotional beyond the usual friendship. That is that feeling within each guy, a desire to share time, know each others thoughts, needs/wants and a clear desire to be with each other but in a non sexual way. You could say 'your wing man'. A guy you care about. This is one definition that states this, "If you're not in the know, the term bromance (used liberally in the study) is meant to playfully describe a platonic bond between two men that is emotionally deep and affectionate, going beyond normal levels of friendship but not crossing into romantic love or intimacy". Key is what we define for emotional and affectionate plus romantic love or intimacy. This is the areas where lines get blurred that comes from our thought process and understanding of these words. We use some of these words loosely, such as 'we love this guy' or 'a bj is not intimacy' which then puts us into situations that can go beyond boundaries of what platonic relationship/friendship between guys. Wording is key, such as "I care about him" to "I love him" or actions between men. It is key that we understand what words we are using and even discuss thoughts with the other guy. In some cultures, kissing is acceptable way to show friendship, or caring for the other guy but not as been romantic or intimate with him. Then there is the holding of each other at shoulders, where as holding each other at waist or hand. Shoulder holding is views as a friend where waist or hand holding can blur that feeling towards each other. There always be 'gray' areas due to our own thoughts which shape our definitions of things.