We'll, there's all sorts of demographic information that can go in a profile so it's not surprising it's one that comes up, and one that members are generally happy to share.
I'd expect that a community that is somewhat outside of societal norms, like nudism, would be more likely to attract those who are comfortable with being outside those norms in more than one dimension.
I am interested in women , and men , and those who enjoy both too . So what catagory do you place me i?? I am heterosexual , Bi , and gay . I enjoy nudity and being naked . Does enjoying nudity really catagorize me ?? No . But i accept all positions and views .
Mostly speculation with no real data to back it up. In real life nudist community no one is tracking whether you are gay or straight, unless it is a discriminatory community that is an aspect of this site that I have long thought is unnecessary.True, but many members here and elsewhere include their sexual preferences in their profile.
"Seen but not heard".
We're forced to pretend that we don't exist, and even if we do remain on our own we still get shat on. You might think that "no one is tracking if you are gay or straight" but I assure you that if I show up with my fianc at any resort that doesn't put inclusivity at their forefront, chances are we're going to get harassed in some capacity, stared at, or worse.
We place our preferences on our profiles to both meet people within our community and those that don't shun us for existing. With the people we meet, we can then find locations where social nudism can be enjoyed without the fear of being hate crime'd. It sucks, but it's reality.
Based on my informal observation on this and other nudity related sited, the proportion of gay and bi males seems to be higher than in the population as a whole.Do you think this is because they are more likely to be nudists than straight men, more likely to share their involvement in nudity, or some combination of the two?
My experience as a gay male would be to agree with that. I've been quite active in the beach scene for the past 18 years and socialise with a lot of men there. From my interaction, completely straight men are in the minority. Most are gay or bi.
Gay men are more likely to be nudists than straight men - also my observation. Partly because gay men like seeing other naked men. Although of course there's much more to nudism, seeing other naked men was one of the factors that got me into it. In my 'pre nude' life, a very large proportion of gay men I met up with had been to nude beaches. Far, far, more so than with straight guys I've known.
Having said that, there is definitely a not insignificant number of gay men who won't get naked because of body insecurity. This is made worse by the so-called gay 'community' being very judgemental with body appearance. I think this is reflected in the fact that most gay guys I meet at beaches are not part of the gay scene and couldn't care less.
True, but many members here and elsewhere include their sexual preferences in their profile.
I think you misunderstand my point. When a person goes to a clothing optional beach do they indicate their sexual orientation before being allowed entry. When you apply for membership to a National nude organization outside of those specifically for the LGBTQIA+ community there is no enter you sexual orientation line on the membership form. A reputable naturist club or membership resort should not have any sure requirement.
Online if someone wants to include that information their bio then it would be their choice. The issue for me is having sexual orientation as profile category. In my opinion it helps to segregate a group people based on a classification that should have no bearing on their participation in the nudist community.
I dont want to friend someone based on their sexual orientation but rather on their interests. If you share my interests and are a part of the LGBTQIA+ thats fine, but I don't engage or not engage based on a persons sexual orientation. It leads to too many sloppy and potentially harmful assumptions and stereotypes like gay men are more erotic. Some might be but it is dangerous to conflate comfort with nudity, sexual orientation and erotic or sexual behavior. That is no different that assumptions made about straight single men being pervs.
I dont engage or not engage base on a persons sexual orientation. It leads to too many sloppy and potentially harmful assumptions and stereotypes like gay men are more erotic. Some might be but it is dangerous to conflate comfort with nudity, sexual orientation and erotic or sexual behavior. That is no different that assumptions made about straight single men being pervs.
Thank you for pointing that out.
stoneandy wrote:US groups like AANR implicitly discriminate against single men, defined as men without a female escort. That makes gay naturists unwelcome unless their mom or sister wants to tag along. How can men, gay or straight, follow rules that are written to exclude them?
The key word in that first sentence is "implicitly." The AANR doesn't explicitly discriminate against single men as an institutional policy, but leave it to the member clubs to decide policies regarding single men. Some of those clubs don't allow single men, or single men with children. Others allow single men but either set quotas or charge single men many times what they'd charge couples or single women. There's no uniform policy.
I've visited three AANR-affiliated clubs in California and Oregon. None of those had policies restricting me as a single man. But, as the man says, "Your mileage may vary."
Based on my informal observation on this and other nudity related sited, the proportion of gay and bi males seems to be higher than in the population as a whole.Do you think this is because they are more likely to be nudists than straight men, more likely to share their involvement in nudity, or some combination of the two?
Unless the numbers have changed recently, I'm not sure I agree with this observation.
Somewhere between 5-7 years ago, the leader of the Naturist Action Committee was asked to address the Gay Naturist International Convention that particular year. He began by asking the assembled group "How many of you are out as being gay?" 95% raised their hands. Then, "How many of you are out as being nudists? Only 5% raised their hands!
Unless the numbers have changed recently, I'm not sure I agree with this observation.Somewhere between 5-7 years ago, the leader of the Naturist Action Committee was asked to address the Gay Naturist International Convention that particular year. He began by asking the assembled group "How many of you are out as being gay?" 95% raised their hands. Then, "How many of you are out as being nudists? Only 5% raised their hands!
Thanks for sharing that info.