Too much info in ths thread; enough for a theatrical play or a not-so-short novel. There are so many different opinions, arguments and counter arguments that a newcomer cannot read from post #1 and make comments 70 posts later.
Sharing the platform is inevitable. In the same way we live in communities with neighbours that we cannot become friends with for a number of reasons. Everyone's looking for individuals or groups with common interests, with similar understanding of life.
Some of us are creepy, some of us are transparent, some of us are distant, some of us are extroverts. Unless the site decides to apply more strict rules (which would certainly shuffle their target audience a little bit) everyone should be welcome to express oneself or show off.
Wow, this thread really exploded yesterday! My two more cents is that I am a moron and I know it. I judge too quickly, throw labels around as tools for "fixing" when I should really be listening and believe that my wealth and breadth of life experiene should apply to others. I'm also learning a lot from good people on this site, admire their openness over the repression of my culture of origin, and know that I don't have to agree with everything and everyone to uphold a fundamental respect and playfulness for others on this social media platform. As far as the rest, it's just details and I'm willing to let it go....
Be well.
Roc, thank you for allowing me to have an opinion.So sorry I made you angry enough to make you shout....it was never my intention.I really shouldnt even be making a reply to your comment as I dont have a PhD in English.... but fuck it Im going to.Do you realise what you typed is on the internet, youre opinion will be here forever.The opinion that only someone with a PhD in psychology can call someone an idiot. Have you never met an idiot?
My point here Steve was that name calling makes your point mute. Once you start negatively labeling someone, the reader has a tendency to stop listening to your point or opinion. This is not the first, and most likely not the last, time that you have made your opinion Boisterously present on a topic.. and proceeded to call people names. If you want to make a point, than do just that.. make your point. Type it out, re read it, edit it without inflammatory language or hurtful statements, and modify as needed. Too many people these days feel as thought they can say, post, ...whatever they want without recourse .. and they are wrong. For every action you take, there is a reaction- good or bad.
Yes, I am well aware that what I post here is on the internet... just as yours will as well. (Something to think about.)
Some people prefer to keep aspects of their life private while trying to connect to a group that associates with their private life- seeking friends to email with, 1 to 1 video chat with, and the like. [...] Sounds like you need to decide whether you want to be part of the problem on this site, or support those who struggle with the idea having their personal life exposed with the fear of a lost career or position.So, the alternative to a face pic is not a dick pic, but some other picture that says something about who you are as a person. Your garden, for example, your ukulele, or your collection of Hogans Heroes memorabilia ...It isnt wrong to be shy. And it isnt wrong to use a site like this to work through body-image issues and other issues that, in the end, are the product of a repressive culture. If you go down that road, you will find lots of support and maybe make some new friends along the way.But that is very different from hiding behind nudism (dont you love that image?) as an excuse for tedious sex and body part talk. Nudists truly dont do that and it isnt because they are pure and high-minded. But they can spot an online flasher a mile away.
Great response. Ever noticed that these folks never respond to reasoned arguments with anything But the usual tropes about puritans and self righteousness. Deflecting from the reality of their own self righteous indignation at anyone who doesnt accept their views as normative for naturism.
Why does this matter because a society without boundaries is a society that is unraveling. A group without norms is a mob and a nudist/naturist without respect for the principles and philosophy of the naturism is just a pretender.
I was going to type something longer, but thats says it all.You cant change the definition of a word (naturism) into what you want.Words have meaning, its how they work. If you want to call yourself a naturist act like one.
The point to all of this Stevie Lorna, if you really read the original post:
Someone who decides to post a face-less photo of themselves on a nudist website is no less a nudist than someone who posts a full body picture of themselves. Some people decide to keep their private life private, but would also like to belong to a group of people that they share a common interest with. Shaming them because they have face-less photos doesn't belong here. Name calling doesn't belong here. We are a Community, trying to support a nudist society, which is still deemed by the non-nudist society as wrong and immoral. Try conversing with your fellow, face-less pic, nudist and get to know them. Understand why it is that they cannot be as open and free as you are. Maybe they are shy, maybe they do have a job where they could be fired if a full body picture was copied by someone and posted on a social media website. Isn't part of this site to be Judgment Free..?
Not everyone can wave their Nudist flag as high as others..
Ill begin again.
Our experience of naturism is this.
What happens at a naturist beach or resort is exactly the same as what happens on textile beaches and resorts. Morals, decency and all the social norms dont disappear along with your underpants.
Real world naturist (me included) are some of the nicest friendliest non-judgmental people you will ever meet.
This is how we should always promote naturism.
Put naturism on line and you end up with TN , it gets hijacked by people (men, usually over 50 either single or with a non naturist partner) who have no idea how to behave and I doubt any of them have ever experienced real world naturism.
Lee, Roc, you can argue for their right to call themselves naturists, but in the real world... nah, they aint, In anyones definition.
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