Many on here are more interested in sexual thrills. Nudism is a good way to exhibit themselves in order to release sexual tension.MOW made a simple statement of fact. Again bravobr jumped in with his interpretation. Seems he likes to stir up Forum. I do wish he would get a new hobby. I kinda remember him from a few months ago. He wasn't so annoying then. What changed? Where has he been hiding?
Well Well Thomas,
Yes, I added my interpretation. MOW's choice of words is completely wrong and out of order ! It was not a statement of fact, it's the exact opposite. If I wanted to get sexual gratification, I certainly would not be looking on TN for that, as this site is about naturism and nudity and being a part of that community.
You can call what I say on this forum anytime you like, it has nothing to do with me stirring things up, it's about some people on here being so god damn negative ! There are no set rules or regulations with respect to anyone being naked in a given or certain environment(s), nor is it the right of some old duffer to think he has the right to correct anyone on here or voice his smart ass remarks as to what he thinks any gay men on here is for.
I don't need a new hobby. You and I have messaged on here away from the forums and we had no problems conversing that way, I asked perfectly normal and relevant questions of you and you replied back, so in that respect I have not changed. Attitudes on here have, and more so with the older generation and a fair few of the American nudists, who think they invented the rule book that is non existent on nudity/naturism.
With regards to MOW's stupid words, where on this planet does he think I or any other gay man is going to get a sexual release from looking at nude guys on a nudist site ? What the hell do you think porn sites are for ?
You and MOW might of of the older generation, but even you guys need to get with the times and realise things have changed, whether you like it or not.
With all due respect, you and MOW can't tell me that you both don't look at profiles, specially those of couples or naked women and are not turned on or excited by what you see ? If you tell me your not your both lying your asses off.
A simple thing called common courtesy goes a long way with people, it always has, it does not make a blind bit of difference if a guy asked about boners or plucking his eyebrows, the questions are asked by genuine people for genuine reasons. If you and MOW can't be constructive or offer proper and decent advice then kindly keep your mouths shut or view another post.
Each time he and you bitch off on a forum comment and I don't agree with your words, I will comment, that's not gonna change. One thing I have noticed about your profile pictures is that, regardless of the fact that you have a penile implant, it makes you look semi erect, and I notice that is most of your pictures, your crotch is thrust slightly forward, so that makes me think, your displaying yourself a little too much, even though, you may actually have a back/spine problem. Can you see how things can be interpreted wrong just by looking at something ?
MOW made a simple statement of fact. Again bravobr jumped in with his interpretation. Seems he likes to stir up Forum. I do wish he would get a new hobby.
I wish he would find some other site to release his heterophobia problems, or at least try to approach a subject with a little more civility.
MOW made a simple statement of fact. Again bravobr jumped in with his interpretation. Seems he likes to stir up Forum. I do wish he would get a new hobby.I wish he would find some other site to release his heterophobia problems, or at least try to approach a subject with a little more civility.
Tell you what Man of Wicklow ! If all you can do is slag me and others off on here for voicing our opinions over yours and Thomas Tierney's, then I think you should retire from the world of naturism, as it appears that all you and TT do these days is bitch about everything, simply because someone goes against your aged idea's of what you think is right or wrong.
One thing I am am certainly not is heterophobic, so I would like to know what gave you that idea ? I may be a raving homo, but that in and of itself does not define who I am as a human being, it's a part of me. If you don't like me responding to your comments on this forum, then don't bother putting your crass words in this forum.
If you think anything I say on here to you or TT is me being un-civil, then you have no idea what I am actually capable of saying. You just don't like the fact that I have the balls to confront you and your old fashioned ideals, even Naturism has to evolve, not stay back in the dark ages as you appear to be doing. If you think your single sentence bitchy and derogatory comments are civil or a statement of fact, then you got that wrong. Don't assume to know me in any way because of my words here.
Put in basic English. If you cannot be civil and respect the words/choices and questions of others who are new or old hat at being a naturist, then keep your god damn trap door shut. Your negativity is not needed or required, it's people like you that give Naturism/Nudists a bad name. Why is it that you only respond to me and my comments because I have dared to state something to you ? If your man enough then why don't you message me and discuss this man to man ? Or is it that you think you are superior to me ?
If you can't be the better person and have a civilised discussion with me on here about this, then it just goes to show the sort of shallow man you have become over the years, bitter and twisted !
The ball is now in your court, make the move or shut the hell up.
Well said,, inquire away! We should all be open books!To me, this site is all about the freedom to be yourself!If people have questions, just answer their questions.So be free to be yourself! Just don't be hateful or bigoted.It is unfortunate, but some of the people on this site are being themselves when they post vile, vindictive, rude, hateful, or bigoted replies. We don't have to agree with everyone, nor every idea, but we do need to respect one another and the ideas and opinions they present.
I actually agree with your words of respecting one another, but there are those that think their words are superior to everyone else's, when they are not. That is what I challenge, the vile, vindictive, rude, hateful and bigoted replies of some people to others. It may be an opinion expressed, but it's the context in which it is written that is the problem.
Interesting question. To be honest I hadn't noticed. I tend to chat with people and enjoy conversation. But, I do think the previous post is correct regarding the number of "straight" men that want to talk sex with me and ask me to watch their videos, which I don't. It is strange how we label people and make assumptions about them before we even get to know them as individuals. And this reminds me of a story:a man is driving down a deserted highway and his car breaks down. Unfortunately, he left home in a hurry and doesn't have his cell phone with him. As it's getting on to night he's not sure what to do. He sees a light coming from a farm house in the distance and decides to go ask the farmer if he can borrow use his phone to call for help. So he starts off through the field. On his way he starts having a conversation with himself....I wonder if anyone is home? Maybe they won't answer the door since they don't know me. Maybe they'll think I'm going to rob them.But, I'm a nice person. I wouldn't rob anyone or take advantage of them.True, but they don't know that. And it is late at night. They may not trust someone coming in the dark of night to their door.But, I'm really very trustworthy. Everyone knows that.Yes, but you might frighten then,Well, they have no right to be frightened of me.But it's late and dark and you're a stranger.Well, so what I'm kind and generous and a very nice person. Just what kind of person would think that way of ME?The conversation continues like this as he walks up to the house. By now he's feeling very put upon that a stranger would see him as anything other than sweetness and kindness personified.He knocks on the door and the farmer opens it. "Good evening", he says. "Can I help you? We don't often get visitors this time of the day."Well the man is so upset that he looks the farmer in the eye and says. "I wouldn't use your phone even if you asked." and storms back to his car.I don't know if the story fits the thread, but I think it does speak to how we make assumptions about other people and that can get us in a pickle .
The story you write above fits perfectly ! Some people make interpretations of others before even making the effort to get to know them.
I am not sure if this is the place to enter a comment. The discussion is long, and much has been said, and I probably will add nothing new or of interest to anyone, but perhaos I can thrill myself and get a charge on my on if no one else cares about my point of view.
I am an old man, gay yet still sexually active and interested. Yet it's very well understood I'm not going to attract many men for sex for multiple reasons, age being number one. It is not my intent or interest here to hunt for sex partners, nor look for pics to get off on. My God, I have yet to see one pic that could do that for me, and now I have seen quite a few. Most pics I have see are crudely made, out of focus, poorly lighted, poorly cropped, poorly presented, and look like something a school girl would have made more than 50 years ago. What is here that is sexually arousing.
I joined one month ago, one evening browsing about on the system, when interacting with someone, and in the chat, the fact I was nude came up, and I explained I am a nudist. I explained my past experience, but had never admitted it verbally or to myself before. I went on to admit I had a street of voyeurism but would never violate ones privacy. I was asked if I had been on nudist cites. NO. ...... later I searched and found this. Reluctantly, I joined without having any notion what to find or expect. Here I am. One month of awkwardly stabbing away, trying to learn and meet individuals. Nothing more or less.
Early after thinking, I made some judgement for my pursuit. I'm gay, I like men, I'm attracted to straight and bisexual men and some gay men. I enjoy some women, but not many. I lived a life time with women and tolerated them, but did not like them or their games or political agendas. So why get involved here. I decided to concentrate on those I like and can relate to. Non of this has anything to sexual activity, but simply common ground. I am of the thinking the sexuality plays in all aspects of life and ideally life enters into healthy sexuality. Isolation is in my opinion unhealthy. Do I ever get a boner, you bet you, but seldom is it because of some overt sexual display or innuendo. I can get a boner looking at an original Van Gogh, or many things in life that offer appealing sensuocity. All good art should exude visually appealing sensuocity, and most human bodies do too if and when presented under good condition. Yes I can get a boner looking at women too, but other thing block the desire for sex.
For sure I am her, for one thing, to see male nude bodies, but sex is not a part of that. Other reasons exist, such as dealing with my own self perception, looking at my own naked body, and coming to terms, and finding my own way into the concept of nudity, privately and later publicly.
I suspect gay men in general can relate to some degree, but we all are different. But gay men had to deal with their own nude body from the moment they realized their interests did not match up to the prescribed requirement in society. I doubt any gay man will attack a straight man here or anywhere. Yes many are rude and act out badly just as many straight guy do and have, but usually only when they feel safe enough, mostly anonymously. They are to be ignored or at worst punished for bad behavior.
I would like to point out a kettle something here about sexual thrills.
I learned something many years ago. " Nothing and no one is as they appear or purport to be.
Gay people often times make comments and gestures that appear or sound to be sexual come ones, but these come out many times as reactions of fear, embarrassment, shyness, awkwardness, nervousness, and or just not knowing what to say, especially in from of someone they like, respect, want the attention of, etc., etc.
Dogs often times mount the legs of human beings, but that in no terms means they are sexually attracted or are in love withbperson or leg but is often times a display of nervous excitement.
So straight man, don't let your ego go to your HEAD, it's likely not what you hope it to be. You just might not be that appealing.
Sorry, just joking a bit, but to make a point. I would never want to offend you guys or anyone.
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