One last thing...
StevieLorna, although the dialogue has been "passionate" between us, there's a lot of appreciation for you for your participation, the way you defend your position, and the way you've done so by never demeaning me or the others here, and that you've always queried those who disagree or don't understand your opinion to keep talking about it.
Others here have thrown out some pretty unfair and insulting language but not you. People may not see eye to eye but if passionate discussions about valid topics can't transpire here then where can they?
We might not ever become friends or ever be in agreement, but there's respect on my part...
Kevin
Well after this rather looooong debate about of all things, "'Jewelry' at resorts and beaches" all sides have rendered their opinions & arguments.
As nudists & for the common good of our cause, sometimes we just have to "agree to disagree'". And whatever happened to "to each his own"? As nudists/naturists we are one of the MOST misunderstood groups & often among the least tolerated. I would think that WE should be quickest to be understanding & tolerant of our fellow members.
It seems that the greatest objection here is to genital jewelry: piercings, Cock Rings, etc. I happen to be one, perhaps in the minority, who has and appreciates both. And to add to the offense, I also have some rather attractive tattoos.
I myself, have been discriminated against AND excluded from some nudist circles & venues because of my adornments. And I am a long time card-carrying member of the AANR! I am not saying this to whine or complain in any way but to add to the discourse. As genuine nudists, I thought we were of the "accept yourself as you are" & "we don't judge how you look" persuasion. However, unfortunately, that is NOT true for too many in our nudist community. Change is an inevitable & unavoidable part of life. If we don't change, we don't grow. If we don't grow, we die!
There's nothing more I can add to this debate. It seems that Kevin & Lee have weighed in & given some of the soundest arguments. And I can't begin to match them! So in my humble opinion, that would make them the "Lords of the 'RINGS" in this debate!
Jay
FreeLee and stoneandy; thanks for the encouragement and carrying the message of inclusivity forward - nothing but respect and appreciation for the two of you!
Jay, we're buds so I don't have to stroke your ego in public :])
From Funcouple in post 59:these are the kind of low lifes that we need to ban from all resorts and beaches
As one of those "low lifes" I'm accepted on any nude beach or resort and many clubs. My chunky PA and nipple piercings may often start a conversation with a fellow nudist. So, lets add some fun to our nudist lifestyle, not hidebound by too many rules.
I see there may be two aspects involved. One is about accepting others as they are. The other aspect is about choosing a thing, as piercing, for oneself. I myself see this and will accept others as they are. I still don't choose any of the things that alter my natural body. That does not change how I accept others, if they do not harm others or are a threat to others.
I see there may be two aspects involved. One is about accepting others as they are. The other aspect is about choosing a thing, as piercing, for oneself. I myself see this and will accept others as they are. I still don't choose any of the things that alter my natural body. That does not change how I accept others, if they do not harm others or are a threat to others.
Well said. To each their own. I personally do not get it and have no desire for such things and my wife thinks they look silly. But just because we dont get or dont want such things does not mean someone else wouldnt or shouldnt have different ideas about it and it doesnt mean we cant accept each other or even become friends.
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