RE:Separating social nudity from sexual nudity

In there own

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In my experience, males attending or attempting to attend nudist resorts alone have been unwelcome or outright banned for years. It's discriminatory and disgusting. Which is why I stick to nude beaches. All are welcome and nude beaches.

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Recently someone on social media posted they were going to visit a nude beach with their partner in this case female I know because of the photo and were inquiring where the places were on the beach where they could carry on and have some naked fun. This is kind of idea that some men are taking to the nude beaches in the US. At US resorts (unless it is a swinger venue) men are expected to behave appropriately and cover an erection until it subsides. What is proposes by the sexual libertine men is erections are harmless and benign so no one need worry if a man has an erection and explicitly shows it off. That is not the nudist way. If a social nudism environment everyone is expected to control their behavior so the whole social group can enjoy the space. If you behave accordingly you have nothing to worry about. In fact working about it makes it worse.
Yes Ive noticed erect penises both at nudist beaches and resorts often with their female companionBut the erections dont last long . Once the settle in the erection goes.Some thing I was concerned of on my first public nude exposure. But has never happened

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The US continues to lose nudist beaches venues and I believe Australia has lost two nude beaches this year. Partly because anti nudism groups can use the behavior of a minority of men to blanket associate sexual behavior with all genuine nudists.

I wonder wether its an Australian thing

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Have you wondered why. They are messing things up for others. I was at a nude beach in California a few months ago where there we families and couples and single men a few single men walked up and down the beach for a significant time cruising looking for locations to land and act out sexual behavior. By the time I decided to leave two of them had set in spots where they filmed others at the beach with their phone cameras while playing with themselves.

Think for a minute why would a woman just exploring social nudism want to subject herself to that potential situation? What would an anti nudist person think when they see that happening?

All the erection advocates dont care about anyone else just getting their jollies.
Ive also noticed an increasing trend to make single males unwelcome both at beaches and resorts.Have herd of many resorts not permitting singleMales, and beachs were single males being chased off.

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Co-sign on this 100%
Oh, I know the problem, but if we don't constantly refute them they will not learn that Actual Nudists as opposed to unTrue Nudists do not behave at all the way they portray us.

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In my experience, males attending or attempting to attend nudist resorts alone have been unwelcome or outright banned for years. It's discriminatory and disgusting. Which is why I stick to nude beaches. All are welcome and nude beaches.

It really depends on the resort. Family resorts are obviously not admitting unattached or related single males and aren't super keen on random single women either. This seems fairly logical and understandable to me. Naturist resorts as defined by the strict non sexual definition here are also going to be biased towards couples groups and friends who come and rent together. I can't remember ever seeing single guys not hitting on random women regardless of clothes or nude and with little regard to where and when they do it too. Sure. Not all guys are like this. But in 100 random choices of single men I have serious doubt that more than 5 percent are capable of being in the company of women without hitting on, flirting with or otherwise trying it under any circumstances let alone nude. The statistics are pretty much uniform across the world, when single men are admitted to these spaces in any quantity it quickly drives away the other users and members who don't return. The same is incidentally true of swinger's clubs which contra what some might imagine is solid support for a general truth regarding single men as a whole. The inability to behave in a socially acceptable and supportive manner in spaces where the rules around sexual conduct are not only relaxed but supportive of it just demonstrates the impossibility of following a stricter and more socially demanding code of conduct. The number of single males who are simply out to socialize cordially, even if we grossly overestimate that percentage at 50% still leaves so many who aren't that it will always mean any significant influx is going to be disruptive. So why would you want to access spaces which you will automatically cause discomfort or disruption? There are beyond these nude social spaces a whole other set of resorts guesthouses private b&b's events and cruises among others that cater to mostly or all male and mixed groups that are not all by default simply orgies. It seems to me that it's better to go where one is welcome and to work to build spaces and community that suits your needs rather than demanding others accommodate what they clearly do not and will not.

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Ever other post he bemoans the fact that hes constantly rejected from naturist space, and judges those in charge to be puritanical. Is it any wonder the single male gets a hard time.

Who says I'm always rejected? This "guilty until proven innocent" thinking regarding single men is killing nudism in the US. It even applies to single dads at family resorts. Who would think that a single parent with two grade school kids has any time to focus on anything or anybody else?

The number of single males who are simply out to socialize cordially, even if we grossly overestimate that percentage at 50% still leaves so many who aren't that it will always mean any significant influx is going to be disruptive. So why would you want to access spaces which you will automatically cause discomfort or disruption? There are beyond these nude social spaces a whole other set of resorts guesthouses private b&b's events and cruises among others that cater to mostly or all male and mixed groups that are not all by default simply orgies. It seems to me that it's better to go where one is welcome and to work to build spaces and community that suits your needs rather than demanding others accommodate what they clearly do not and will not.

Good points here! Unfortunately, there don't seem to be many options between male rejection and male orgies. Building spaces and community that suits your needs is tough as a single dad. We need community - it takes a village. Now that my sons are college age, life is easier. When I was a kid I went to a lot of social groups related to my parents' home country. None exist today because they weren't thinking of the next generation. I bemoan that fact with nudism in the US Midwest as well. Since we don't have any nudist beaches or public outdoor areas within a few hundred miles, my nude time outside is limited to skinny dipping when no one's looking and a clothing optional campground three hours away by car. I also go to straight saunas where nudity is accepted though most have a sheet most of the time. The all-nude Korean spa became to stressful when they took away all the seating and put bright lights everywhere.

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Who says I'm always rejected? This "guilty until proven innocent" thinking regarding single men is killing nudism in the US. It even applies to single dads at family resorts. Who would think that a single parent with two grade school kids has any time to focus on anything or anybody else?

Err

You do.

You dont judge people unless they disagree with you.

And the, its my boner and Ill show it off if I want to is exactly the attitude that is destroying it for the guys who just want to enjoy nudism.

I know youll never admit to being in the wrong on this. Its just your nature.

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Im European so I dont get some of the presumptions and preconceptions in this thread which are so very negative about masculinity and sexuality. Are they bad things??

Whats the obsession with separating nudity from perfectly normal human feelings and respectful behaviours? And why? All too often we seem to be presented with a rather presumptuous version of natur-ism that might best be described as naked Puritanism tinged with misandristic toxicity and sexual preoccupation or neuter-ism!

Why cant we all just be treated equally and take our clothes off and respectfully enjoy ourselves in an atmosphere of mutual celebration rather than judging and excluding people?

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