Public nudity is legal in many places in England and Spain. Why not take advantage of this?
This is true, and in many other countries as well. But there are also social norms you have to consider. Though not a crime, public nudity might still count as disturbance of public order if someone feels bothered and result in a fine. So you always have to consider the setting and circumstances. Running around naked at a punk music festival or at the CSD parade is something other than to go shopping at the mall.
I'm just curious as the ATM's I've seen almost always have a camera to view the transaction; did anyone get an observational note from the authorities? Name, date, ID presented and validated exchange ... you were there.
Several years ago, I knew someone that was a branch manager at a local bank. The topic of cameras in the ATM came up and she said nobody monitors them and the video is only checked if something happens like the ATM being vandalized or a crime is committed in view of it that the Police request the video. . I doubt that the Police would bother with the hassle of getting the bank to release the video just to catch a naked person using the ATM, but if there was a report of it someone at the bank may review it just for kicks. From what she told me that has never happened.
... But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt.The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.Using the ATM nude i wouldn't label as naturism as well, but basicly it could be nudism in the way that someone has decided to live an perma-integral nude live. That de facto this isn't possible or rcommendable in the society we live in, is another question. Probably in realtity the few naked uses of ATM are mainly results of dares, bets or drunkenness, like people who get gas naked or use the burger drive trough naked. So this would not count as true nudism, but just as some fun or nonsense.
Someone on this board who lives in Florida posted that he hasn't bought gas, gone to an ATM or taken the trash to the curb clothed since March and doesn't intend to do so as long as the pre-dawn temperature is above 70F. Seems like someone who lives naked as much as possible.
Mr Fab, I agree almost entirely with your post.Yes, people can enjoy nudism in a many different ways.But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt.The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.To be fair, there may have been an ATM in La Boutique or in the front lobby at Club Orient. One of those third party ones with excessive fees (which get even worse when it isnt in the same country as your bank). I would never throw my money away by using it, but if I REALLY needed to say I used an ATM nude, that would have been where I would try it (and I know that doesnt count as one in a bank).Are there any banks with ATMs in the nude quarter of Cap d'Agde or Vera Natura, or in Heliopolis on Ile du Levant? We could see ourselves eventually visiting either of the latter two and if there is any place left that still requires cash we could end up using an ATM to get some Euros while in the nude quarter.
Yes, you are correct. There was an ATM in La Boutique at Club O. I did use it and used it nude. I wanted cash to pay the beach vendors for things to bring home to daughters and grandkids. My wife bought a few sarongs as well.
Never been to Cap d Agde or any of those other places but Cap has advertised "shopping, dining and banking all in the nude," on their website. I agree that these third party ATM's do have some excessive fees. We use one close by at the nail salon for pedicures. It charges $2. That's far better than driving 4-5 miles to the bank, when the need arises. But we've paid upwards of $4.50 for the transaction in other places. Definite rip off.
But this walk up ATM at banks nude thing is just boredom from little to no activity on the site. When the site goes cold of non-activity, there are many of these types of questions posted. It isn't nudism, although, I agree that nudism isn't black and while anymore.
... But I think its disingenuous to suggest its not always black and white as what nudism isnt.The OPs question about ATMs is a definite no. This is not nudism, and to frame the question in the way he has means he has no idea what it means.Maybe i did write this a bit misunderstandably (sorry, I'm not a native english speaker). To me, some contris gave the impression, that - according to the authors - only living together naked socialized in special reserve areas should be the only true way to live nudism, while all other behaviour is exhibtionism. This is what i meant with black and white thinking. For example, if you hit the beach and you find 50 poeple in swimwear at the right side, while 25 poeople on the left side enjoy the beach in the nude, no one seriously would have the idea these are all exhibitionists.Using the ATM nude i wouldn't label as naturism as well, but basicly it could be nudism in the way that someone has decided to live an perma-integral nude live. That de facto this isn't possible or rcommendable in the society we live in, is another question. Probably in realtity the few naked uses of ATM are mainly results of dares, bets or drunkenness, like people who get gas naked or use the burger drive trough naked. So this would not count as true nudism, but just as some fun or nonsense.
I/we have done some of these things you wrote. I have pumped gas while naked. I was driving naked, late at night and stopped at a nearly empty gas station out in the middle of the desert. I was on the other end of the gas station from the only other customer. The pumps blocked their view of me entirely. Had I been an exhibitionist, I would have pulled up right next to them and done this.
I've driven through ATM's, fast food and the pharmacy pick up window and done it naked. I drive naked quite a bit when the weather is nice. Sometimes I'll wear a Hawaiian shirt unbuttoned. I drive a high profile vehicle where the camera or the person at the window is either eye to eye with me or below me. They can't see that I'm naked, unlike driving a small sedan where you're below that person that will have a view.
If any of these things I do were exhibitionist in anyway, it would be done so these drive thru cameras and people could actually see my nakedness. Here in our state, it is very, very common to see guys driving without shirts on. Especially since it always warm here.
This is the point t have trying to make. Just because something is legal doesn't mean there are no guardrails or boundaries. Furthermore and individual act of public nakedness doesn't constitute nudosm as suggested in this thread. Nudism has been and should be a state of mind and a way of life rather than a state of dress.
When an I dividual promotes their behavior as nudism by saying they refuse to dress to go get the mail, put out trash or go to an ATM and justify that behavior as nudism or saying the video at the ATM is rarely viewed misses the point. When individuals engage in such behavior it reinforces a negative perception of nudism and social nudity. What has make the laws in places like the UK and Spain work is the national organizations focus of group activities where pu lic social nudity is present in a manner respectful of others as you describe.This is true, and in many other countries as well. But there are also social norms you have to consider. Though not a crime, public nudity might still count as disturbance of public order if someone feels bothered and result in a fine. So you always have to consider the setting and circumstances. Running around naked at a punk music festival or at the CSD parade is something other than to go shopping at the mall.
Yes, you are correct. There was an ATM in La Boutique at Club O. I did use it and used it nude. I wanted cash to pay the beach vendors for things to bring home to daughters and grandkids. My wife bought a few sarongs as well.Never been to Cap d Agde or any of those other places but Cap has advertised "shopping, dining and banking all in the nude," on their website. I agree that these third party ATM's do have some excessive fees. We use one close by at the nail salon for pedicures. It charges $2. That's far better than driving 4-5 miles to the bank, when the need arises. But we've paid upwards of $4.50 for the transaction in other places. Definite rip off..
Cap is the least likely we will visit due to the heavy swinger influence, but if there are any banks in either of the other two towns I could see us going to an official first party ATM while nude. Not quite an ATM, but I did walk up to the ship's purser while nude on a Bare Necessities cruise and deposit some casino winnings onto our account. That should be better than an ATM, no?
I'm guessing the one at La Boutique was more than $4.50 and gave a horrible exchange rate on top of it. This reminds me I need to get some Euros before our trip to Residence Adam & Eve in St. Martin this February or we will be stuck at one of those third party ATMs at the grocery store in Orient Village getting some cash for the beach vendors (although most are happy to take USD at a 1:1 rate, so I should really just use $ since they have already uncreased their prices by 10-15% to cover the difference).
There are ATMs in certain nudist resorts that nudist do use, but thats not what the OP is asking.
He is asking if you have used one nude in your town.
I would ask you to explain exhibitionism, fetishism and voyeurism to him, but those are concepts he thinks mean nudism because you can do them with tiny shorts on.
There are ATMs in certain nudist resorts that nudist do use, but thats not what the OP is asking.He is asking if you have used one nude in your town.I would ask you to explain exhibitionism, fetishism and voyeurism to him, but those are concepts he thinks mean nudism because you can do them with tiny shorts on.
That's true of the original question but because it wasn't really worth discussing, we veered off topic to other spin off topics. It's just conversing. It's sometimes all we can do on this site where we've talked about the same stuff too many times.
As far as explaining those things to him, I don't think it will change a thing. I've done it many times on many different topics but then he comes back with answers trying to make sense of his nonsense.
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